Finally, a New HDTV

SCEPTRE 46 1080p LCD HDTV X46BV-1080p

I've wanted an HDTV for a long time. We've had the same 25" TV since we got married 9 years ago. I've been waiting for a big deal. Well, I think I've finally found one! Saturday I was in Wal-Mart and saw that they had a 46" Visio 1080p for $795. That was the best deal I've seen on a 46" 1080p. I was tempted to buy it, but I generally don't make impulse buys. It tends to get me in trouble. So when I got home I checked the internet and the best deal I could find for a similar model was $900. Well, I just happened to check again and that same model was now $749 on Newegg! It's a one day only Memorial day sale. It's got great reviews from what I've seen on Newegg and Amazon. Better yet, I don't have to pay sales tax or shipping! Thanks, yet again, Newegg!

If you're reading this on 5/25/2009 you can score the same deal by clicking here.

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Step 2: Putting It All Together

Putting it all together is the funnest part for me. It is really much easier than it looks. I won't go into all the details on how to put it together. I would just say to read your manual if you have questions.

That being said, I will go over the process of putting my media pc together.

casep1060012First thing to open is the case. I must admit, I was a little disappointed. I didn't quite measure the depth right and so it stuck out of my TV stand about an inch. I ended up putting it on top of the stand becase it looked better. In hindsight, I'd probably look at getting a Shuttle case as I think it would fit in the space better.

Once I got the cover off the case, I began dismantling the thing to make room for the motherboard. I did like the creative use of space in this thing. It was quite easy to work with.

There is really not a lot to say here, but here is basically how I put the machine together:

 

  1. Screwed the motherboard to the case
  2. Installed the processor. - There was a major problem here. I didn't realize that the OEM didn't come with heatsink and fan. I ended up ordering a heatsync and fan for it. When it arrived it was too big for my case. So, I took the processor and heatsink and fan out of my old case and put it in the media center pc. I switched it because the new processor was slightly faster than the one in my PC that was about a year and a half older. (Switching processors caused some problems with Vista on my machine, but I was able to work through them eventually)
  3. Instlled the RAM
  4. Installed the TV Tuner Card. I had to change the bracket on this to the low profile type. This card comes with another bracket for additional inputs that I would loved to have used - mainly to plug my Wii into, but alas, it didn't have a low-profile adapter for it so it could not be installed.
  5. Attached all the case wiring to the motherboard. This was probably the hardest part. I have a very difficult time attaching the USB connectors to the motherboard due to my fat fingers. I was ready to pull out the motherboard or power supply to get them in, but I finally managed carefully with some needle nose pliers. Note that I didn't install the reset button wiring. I once bought a computer for a local store and notice they didn't install this. I questioned it at first, but I don't anymore. I have a 16 month old that loves to push buttons. I really don't want him hard rebooting this machine every chance he gets (because I know he would).

    Because the motherboard was open box, it didn't come with a manual or driver CDs. I had to go to the manufacturers website to download the manual to see exactly where all the connectors go. I also downloaded software drivers to get all the integrated components to work (after installing the operating system of course).

  6. Installed hard drive. Again, I think the motherboard generally comes with cables, but again, because this was open box, all I got was the motherboard. Luckily I had a SATA cable left over from my last build.
  7. Installed the CD rom drive. I wasn't paying much attention, but the CD ROM drive I purchased used and IDE cable rather than SATA, which I would have preferred. Either way, I didn't have an extra cable for that, so I yanked an IDE cable out of an old computer I had sitting in the closet and ordered a new one to replace it later.
  8. I also ordered a video card. I realized I wasn't getting a new TV soon and I wanted to see how this would word on my 9 year old 25" TV. So I ordered this card and installed it. I had a number of options built into my motherboard, but I needed composite out, because that is basically the only option (other than a cable connector) that I have on my old TV. I got a video card that had S-Video out with a composite adapter.

 

That is pretty much it for the hardware built. After putting it all together I installed Windows Vista Ultimate. I already had this. As I understand, you can install you OS on two computers, so that is what I did. I bought the 32 bit version because at the time I heard it was more stable and more compatible than the 64 bit, but I'm wishing now I had the 64 bit. I will likely upgrade both computer anyway when Windows 7 is released.

The install went smoothly and I was happy to see that the video card worked just fine on my TV. Unfortunatey though, I can hardly read anything on the TV that is not in Windows Media Center. I've watched some things on Hulu and CBS.com that look really great. Navigating the interent to find them is difficult though simply because it is hard to read anything on the TV. We are now saving up for an LCD TV. If anyone would like to make donations, we happily accept them. I could even put up an ad for your business on this site in return if you'd like ;)

One pleasant surprise was the keyboard/remote combo I bought. It worked great. I don't even use the infrared remote I purchased because I like the one that came with the keyboard so much better. The only downside to it is that because it is not infrared, it cannot be programmed to turn our TV on and off. This is not that big of deal to me though.

We've been using the Media PC for a couple of weeks now and we love it. It is great to have a DVR again! We can now pause and rewinde live TV, record our favorite shows. I networked our media PC to my computer so I can watch shows that are stored on my main computers hard drive. We have been able to watch old home videos that I never got around to putting on DVD.

My wife enjoys doing exercise videos in the mornings. I've ripped these DVDs to the hard drive so she doesn't have to worry about swapping DVDs out everyday. I used a great program called DVDFab. It has a free mode which allows to rip DVDs to your hard drive. The registered version provides more advanced features. It has worked well and I will likely register it in the future.

I will post blog articles in the future to describe more of these features and hacks in the future.

Below are some photos of the build process:

Motherboard installed

Motherboard installed

Motherboard installed II

Motherboard installed II

 

Installing the processor

Installing the processor

Installing the processor II

Installing the processor II

 

The OEM processor case... no heatsink and fan :(

The OEM processor case... no heatsink and fan :(

RAM installed

RAM installed

 

TV tuner card installed

TV tuner card installed

 

Difficult USB connectors!

Difficult USB connectors!

 

Power, reset, LED wiring

Power, reset, LED wiring

 

Power cable - it was a tight stretch!

Power cable - it was a tight stretch!

 

Hard drive installed

Hard drive installed

That's basically it as far as the steps go. It was fun building. I may end up selling this on eBay and building another one that fits better in our entertainment center. Overall, if I include the operating system at about $150, and the extra parts I bought as described above. The total cost of building this was around $750. Yeah, it could be done a little cheaper, but I have definitely seen them much more expensive!

Looking at all the costs, the OS is probably the most expensive. I had thought about installing Linux and trying out some free alternatives such as MythTV, but having the OS available, I really didn't want to bother with it. I just wanted to get something up and running ASAP.

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Step 1: The Hardward Components

* Please note: I have a number of product links and prices in this article which may change at any time. I'll try to keep it updated, but don't expect products to be available or prices to be the same.

Minimally, here are the 9 hardware components you will need to build your media pc:

  1. Case
  2. Power supply (many cases come with the power supply)
  3. Motherboard
  4. Processor
  5. RAM
  6. Hard Drive
  7. DVD Drive
  8. TV Tuner
  9. Keyboard & Mouse

Other hardware components you will likely want to add to your media center pc are:

  1. Card Reader
  2. Remote Control
  3. Router
  4. Wireless Adapter

Don't worry, I'll explain each of these components and describe what I purchased and why.

Once You Know, You NeweggBefore I begin, let me just say that I recommend buying all your parts at Newegg.com! They have the best deals I've seen, awesome customer support and return policies, a very user-friendly website, huge selection, and they have tons of information and customer reviews on their product pages.

1. Case

IN WIN IW-BL631.300BLP Black Computer Case

For me, this one was a little tricky. We just bought a new entertainment center only to learn that our VCR/DVD combo was too wide to fit in it. Our entertainment center has 3 colums of shelves. Each column is about 15 inches wide. To add to the complexity, the depth is only 14 inches. I found that most of the media center cases I was looking at would not fit - especially the cheaper models I was looking at.

I did find one though. I selected this model. It wasn't listed with the other HTPC / Media Center cases. I did a search in computer cases for a case with a power supply and type of MicroATX slim case. There is no way that I know of to search by dimensions, so you'll just have to check the specifications on the product page. You can see the dimensions on the page here:

Case dimensions

2. Power Supply

As I mentioned above, I searched for a case that came with a power supply. For me, this just makes it a little easier and often cheaper. One thing you'll have to keep in mind is whether your power supply will be sufficient for the components you are putting in. If it is not, you may end up damaging some of your components. The case above comes with a 300 W power supply that you can also see in the screenshot. Newegg has a power supply calculator you can use to determine how much power you need. Doing a quick run of the calculator suggestes 338 Watts. I'm still debating on whether or not to buy a replacement. I can order a 380W power supply for $12.99 - not a budget killer. I'll probably stick with the 300 for now, and if I find any problems I'll upgrade ASAP.

If your power supply is not sufficient or the case you selected does not have a power supply, run the calculator to get an idea of what you need. If you are concerned, error on the side of getting more power than you need.

Make sure you get the right size. If you have a MicroATX case, get a MicroATX sized PSU.

Also, just a tip if you are buying a power supply, you want this computer to be quiet. User reviews will often tell you whether the fans are noisy or quite. I built my main computer to be as quiet as possible - and it was until I bought a video card to support dual LCD monitors. My video card sounds like a jet engine! I didn't really take the time to check on that unfortunately.

3. Motherboard
ASUS M3A78-EM Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
I suppose the most important thing to consider when buying a motherboard is whether or not it will fit in your case! Notice that I searched for a MicroATX case. That means that I want a MicroATX sized motherboard to go in it.

Other things to consider are what type of processor you prefer to use (AMD vs Intel), what kind of connectors it has, whether it has onboard audio and video (most do), etc. If you know this stuff it will help in your search.

So here is the path I went. I first priced AMD and Intel processors. I basically just wanted something with a dual core. You don't need this, it's just a personal preference. If I had gone with a single core processor, I likely would not even have to worry about upgrading my power supply.

I found compatible AMD processors and motherboards and added them to my cart. I noticed that the AMD motherboard / processor combo was significantly cheaper than the Intel combo. This is generally the case. I have been running on AMD the past six years or so and have absolutely not complaints.

I also wanted to find a motherboard that had and HDMI output so it could plug right into an HDTV.

I wanted at least one IEEE 1394 connector so I could use FireWire to plug in my video camera (or I could just use USB, but I've heard FireWire is better for that stuff).

My search results found a few options. Some people have stong opinions on brands of motherboards. A friend of mine will only buy ASUS for example. I opted to use Gigabyte for my personal computer based on glowing reviews. I'm generally open to any brand until it gives me problems, but with motherboard, I must admit I tend to gravitate towards recommended brands whether conciously or sub-consciously, I don't know.

I opted for this ASUS model. Really the two choices I was considered ironically enough were ASUS and Gigabyte. They had relatively the same specs and same price. I found this open box deal on ASUS though that saved me about $20 so that was the ultimate tipping point.

* UPDATE: I guess I didn't realize this, but the open box deal didn't come will all the wires and manual, etc that the retail box will. Lucky for me I had an extra SATA and IDE cable that I could use that was left over from a previous built. I downloaded the manual from the manufacturer's website. Unless you really know what you're doing, I suggest making your life easier by avoiding open box.

4. Processor
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ 2.2GHz Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Processor
As I mentioned above, my CPU selection pretty much went hand-in-hand with my motherboard selection. Processors are made by Intel or AMD. AMD as I mentioned are generally cheaper for similar porformance models. Motherboard are either made to support an Intel model or an AMD model.

I chose this model because it was the cheapest dual core processor available at $35.99 with free shipping. Plus it had glowing 5 egg reviews so I was pretty confident I would be pleased with it.

To match up your processor with your motherboard, check the specifications and make sure your motherboard will support your processor selection. See screenshots below:

Processor socket typeMotherboard processor support

One thing to note, you'll just need to make sure that you processor speed is supported by the other components you select. For example, check out the specs on the TV Tuner card I selected below.

* UPDATE: I didn't realize that with OEM you need supply your own heatsink and fan. I had to order this after the fact. I suggest buying the retain box that comes with a heatsink and fan.

5. RAM
Kingston HyperX 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Desktop Memory
Your decision for the amount of RAM or Memory you choose will greatly affect you perfomance. I stongly suggest getting 2 GB or more if you are going to run Vista. I'm personally using 4 GB on my main computer and sometimes wish I had more. But I run a lot of programs at the same time. With my media center, 2 GB should be plenty.

Again, check your motherbaord specifications for the type of memory you need to get. My motherboard supports DDR2 1066 memory, so that is what I searched for. I chose this memory by Kingston. It had a low price of $23.99 and great reviews.

I opted to get a single memory chip rather than 2 x 1GB chips thinking that if I needed to upgrade, I would just come back and buy the same chip to double my memory. My motherboard supports 4 chips and up to 8GB or RAM, so ultimately it most likely doesn't matter.

6. Hard Drive
HITACHI Deskstar P7K500 320GB 3.5
As far as hard drive's go, the more storage you can get, the better!

Sadly, I chose to skimp in this area as I was striving to stick within a $500 budget. Still, I got this 320 MB Hitachi hard drive. That saved me $50 off the 1 TB hard drive I really wanted to get. Ultimately, the more storage you have, the more shows and movies you can record on your DVR and the more DVDs you can back up to your hard disk.

Oh well, there is another bay available in my case if it comes to the point where I really feel I need that extra storage. Or there is always the option of getting an external hard drive that can plug into the many USB ports available on my board.

If I do get a second hard drive, I will definitely need to upgrade my power supply.

7. DVD Drive
LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model GH22NP20
At first, I thought this might be optional, but really it is not. Even if you don't plan to use this as your DVD player, you will still need this to install your operating system and other software you may have on disk, so just get it.

You can turn your PC into a Blu-ray player with a Blu-ray drive for as low as $90. You could even upgrade it to a Blu-ray burner for as low as $200.

Still both were out of my price range. I opted to get this DVD±R DVD Burner which was only $21.99 with free shipping.

If you don't think you'll ever need to burn any DVDs or CDs, feel free to just get a DVD-ROM drive and save yourself $3 - but hey, it's only $3, so disreguard that advice because at some point, you will want to burn something!

8. TV Tuner
Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-2250 Dual TV Tuner / Encoder 1229
So, where I skimped on the hard drive, I did not skimp on the tv tuner card. This is more important to me than storage.

I really wanted a dual tuner card. This would allow me to watch a show while one is being recorded, or record two shows at the same time. Another option is to buy two TV tuner cards, but then we are taking up some precious PCI space right?

So I decided to go with this Hauppauge model. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Hauppauge is probably the most popular TV tuner card manufacturer.

Here is what I like about the card I selected:

  • Dual tuners
  • NTSC/ATSC/QAM on each tuner, with only a single connection
  • Dual MPEG2 Hardware accelerated controllers for SD content
  • FM Tuner to listen to the radio
  • Two IR blasters (for controlling two cable boxes)
  • Optional half height/L-P bracket - which will be needed with my small case!

You should be aware of the system requirements on this one:

Processor requirements: 2.2 GHz P4 or equivalent (minimum) required for displaying ATSC high definition TV on your PC screen 
Microsoft Windows Vista Premium or Ultimate with Media Center or Windows XP Media Center Edition. Windows XP is supported with Hauppauge's WinTV v6 application. 
Available PCIe X1 or X8 slot 
Graphics with 64 MB memory (or greater) 
Sound card 
CD reader for software installation

Notice that PCIx X1 or X8 slot? Yes, my motherboard has this. The graphics with 64 MB memory is the only question I had on this. My motherboard on the onboard graphics, but the specifications listed only say "ATI Radeon HD 3200". After doing a quick Google search on that it appears that it has 512 GB of memory, which seems to be pretty standard, so again, I should be fine.

9. Keyboard & Mouse
nMEDIAPC Black 2.4GHz RF Wireless Keyboard with Track Ball & Remote Combo Set
This should be obvious, and I hesitate even mentioning it, but you are really going to want a wireless keyboard and mouse!

We don't really have a coffee table or somewhere to use your standard type mouse, so I wanted to find a keyboard with a trackball in it. Simple enough, Newegg has a search for that too!

I didn't go with the cheapest model this time becaue it had bad reviews - mostly that it kept losing its connection. While I'm not terribly concerned about keyboard quality (mainly because I will mostly be using a remote control), I don't want to buy a piece of junk either. I opted for this model which seemed pretty nice.

Notice that it comes with a remote control too. This is pretty cool. Still, I read some complaints on the reviews about the remote which prompted me to order a different one which Newegg was offering a great combo discount on with the case I orderd. You will find this a lot with Newegg. After adding an item to your cart, it will often let you know about discounts you can get when you order other items with the one you just added to your cart.

Optional Components

10. Card Reader
SABRENT CRW-UINB 68-in-1 USB 2.0 Internal Card Reader w/ USB 2.0 Port supports SDHC/VISTA
I'll admit, this is just one thing I forgot to fit into my budget! No worries though, you can find this for $10 on Newegg.

Just a few things to note, you should make sure you get the size that will fit your case. I prefer the ones that fit the 3.5" external drive bay. These were generally for floppy disks, but who uses those anymore?

Also, make sure the type of connector that you need is available internally on your motherboard.

One last tip, I prefer to get one that also has a USB port in it. You can never have too many USB ports!

So after a quick search, if I were to buy one now, it would likely be this 68-in-1 model for $13.99 with free shipping.

11. Remote Control
eDATA DEC-200B IR Vista Certified Remote Control W/ Receiver & Blaster
I find that Window Media Center remote controls generally get good reviews overall. Because the remote that comes with my keyboard is not an MCE remote, I decided to get one.

The main decision to do so, what that this remote was offered as a combo discount on nearly everything I put in my card - so what the heck, why not? 

This is an infrafred remote, which means I'll have to use the little receiver box. There may be other options such as radio frequency (RF), Wi-Fi, or Bluetooth that you may want to consider.

12. Router
TRENDnet TEW-672GR 300Mbps Dual Band Wireless N Gigabit Router
OK, this technically isn't part of your computer, but if you don't have a router, you'll likely want one.

I recently purchased this dual band wireless n gigabit router. My previous router was a wireless g (up to 54Mbps) and the LAN/WAN ports only supported up to 100Mbps. This new router will support up to 300Mbps wireless and 1000Mbsp wired.

I plan to have this media pc wired directly to the router for faster speeds. But in the future I will probably put a media center extender in our master bedroom and so I will be using the wireless for that.

13. Wireless Adapter
ENCORE ENUWI-N USB 2.0 802.11n Wireless Adapter
If you are going to use a wireless router and connect to your media center pc that way, you will likey need a wireless adapter. Be sure to get one that supports the speed you want.

For example, if you are getting the Wireless N router like the one above, you will need a wireless adapter that supports N speeds to get the maximum benefits. These generally start around $20 and go up from there.

There are a few things to keep in mind here also. You can get on with a USB connector, or one that plugs into a PCI slot. I would choose one that uses a PCI slot just as a personal preference - it looks cleaner to me. But, for the case I have, it would need to be a low-profile bracket to fit. I didn't really see any low profile brackets, so you might be better off just getting a USB type.

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Well, that's it for the hardware - unless you want to look at game controllers and other neat stuff. I'll leave that up to you.

My hardware is on its way. Here is a screenshot of the items I ordered, showing that everything shipped is under $500. (Keep in mind, I may need to go back and order a better power supply and card reader, also, this did not include my router.)

Order total

Once my hardward arrives, I'll move on to Step 2: Building the Machine.

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Why Build a Media Center PC?

My TV History

I thought that before I got into details on how I built my media center pc, I would explain why I built it.

There are lots of options out there when it comes to TV. Here is a brief history of where I have been with it.

First of all, let me say, I'm not rich! So even though I'd love to have the latest and greatest, I simply cannot afford it. Growing up, it always seemed we paid for basic cable service. We didn't get any of the "bonus" channels like HBO or Disney Channel though - except for those free preview weeks.

In high school (1994-96) my parents got DIRECTV. I loved having an on-screen guide - no more need for TV Guide!

In college (1998), my mom had Dish Network. I liked it much better than our old DIRECTV that my dad had. The Guide was much faster and easier to navigate. I liked how it showed channels in red that we did not have.

When I got married (2000), we basically had rabbit ears for a year until we decided to bite the bullet and get Dish Network. It was great. After about 3 1/2 years we moved to a new home. We again ordered Dish Network, but this time we got the DVR system. That was even better! It was great to pause the TV if we had an interruption (which occurs regularly with kids).

About a year or two later we started having signal problems and just couldn't watch TV. I finally gave up with Dish Networks support and switched to DIRECTV. It was certainly quite an upgrade from the system my dad was still using! It was a TiVo system with Dual tuners. Now we could watch one program while recording another, or record two shows at once. There were a few things that I preferred Dish Network for - mainly dealing with the guide and favorite lists.

After a couple years fo DIRECTV, I started shopping around again for whatever reason. There were a few channels that I wanted, but wasn't getting in my package and I didn't really feel like upgrading. If I switched to Dish Network, I could again get the latest and greatest equipment for free.

But at this time, I also started lo0king into Cable - mainly because it was the only package that had the new MTN station which allowed me to watch BYU and Utah football games.

Plus, I was already using Comcast for my high-speed internet, so if I used their cable TV service I would also get a discount on my internet. That is the direction I ultimately went.

Again, there are pros and cons to every decision. Comcast seemed to have the best package for the money. It was very customized to our area. We even got Fox News which my wife quickly became addicted to.

One think that I really liked about Comcast is that we have a set top box which gives us the guide and crystal clear TV, but it also streams an analog signal.

My First Media Center PC (sort of)

About a year ago I built a new computer and installed Windows Vista Ultimate. I was really curious about the Media Center. A friend a work had told me about his media center that he used (Beyond TV) and I wanted to try it out. So I bought a Hauppauge TV Tuner card for my computer and hooked it up. The tuner card limited me to 99 channels, but I don't think I get anything hire than that anyway.

Setting up Media Center was a snap. It basically walked me through the whole process. I tried other applications like Media Portal (free), and Beyond TV 4 (trial). I prefered Microsoft Media Center.

So while it was cool having this on my computer, it wasn't very comfortable watching shows on it in my office.

Time For an Upgrade - The Options

So here I am now. We have a TV in the family room and one in our master bedroom - both with Comcast cable boxes. (Plus my computer in my office). While the cable box provides an onscreen guide, and OnDemand (which is pretty cool I must admit), we are lacking DVR service, which we really miss!

We could simply get a cable tuner from Comcast that has a DVR. But the prices goes up significantly. We have to pay to upgrade to digital cable, plus the monthly rental of the DVR, plus the monthly DVR service fee. I won't do it.

Second option I've considered is to buy a Media Center Extender. This would basically use my main coputer to send programming to the extender. These have come down in prices lately. I was actually considering this and came close to going this direction, but there are a few issues with this decision:

  1. I want one that also plays DVDs, because our kids have broken all our DVD players. This options is available, but a little more expensive.
  2. I work on my computer all day. I don't want to worry about performance issues on my computer if the kids are watching TV and streaming shows from it.
  3. Media center extenders are limited to the video formats they support. You cannot add addtional formats if you need to.

Plus, there are other benefits I see with having a Media Center PC:

  1. I can watch shows on Hulu and other sites such as YouTube, CBS.com, ABC.com, etc. These even have Hi-Def available for free. Who needs a DVR or OnDemand if this are readily available on the internet?
  2. I can run game emulators. I had a Nintendo when I was young, and I love playing some the old games I used to love such as The Legend of Zelda (the original), Kid Icarus, Mike Tyson's Punchout, Metroid, etc. Yeah, I can also buy, and play these on my Wii, but that's not the point. There are a number of game emulators and the number of games available on a PC are virtually unlimited.
  3. OK, this is somewhat embarrassing, but we don't even have an HDTV yet (that is next on the list). Therefore, high-def is not that critical. But when we do, I'm sure we'll get into the blu-ray craze. By building my own Media Center PC, upgrading to a blu-ray player is as simple as swapping out my DVD drive and currently would cost about $70 for the drive. Where are you going to find a blu-ray player for that amount?
  4. I can burn my kids' favorite movies on the thing so they can stop destroying our DVDs
  5. Upgrades are simple if I build my own. If I need more storage, I can swap out the hard drive - or just plug in some external hard drives.
  6. I can back up my pc to an offline storage center such as Mozy.
  7. I could probably go on and on. There are all the other cool things that you can do on a computer - browse the internet, check email, check weather, view photos, view family videos, etc. Plus, I'll still be able to link to main computer so I have access to all the files, photos, and videos on there.

I guess the one other option if I wanted all this, is to just buy a Media Center PC. But again the cost is prohibitive. For what is available I can build for 1/3 or 1/4 of the price - and I will show you how too!

Plus, who knows how well you can upgrade one of these systems? If I build my own, I can update components as I please.

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